From: ahsvguy	Date: May 10th, 2008 12:09 am (UTC)		(Link)
	Nice...

Snow!?!?

It is getting quite warm here!


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	From: edbook	Date: May 10th, 2008 12:46 am (UTC)		(Link)
	Re: Nice...

just up the road from where I made this image the snow is about 24 feet deep.

It probably won't melt to bare ground till the end of July or even August.

Down here at sealevel it's mid spring with 60 degree days.

Peace

	From: kytty	Date: May 10th, 2008 04:51 pm (UTC)		(Link)
	Happy Birthday, Ed!!

And a wonderful year ahead, as well :)

	From: edbook	Date: May 10th, 2008 10:04 pm (UTC)		(Link)
	Re: Happy Birthday, Ed!!

Thank You, I'm enjoying my day. My Daughter and family who are here for my Son's wedding next week took me to brunch and to the park for some Grandpa/Grandkid time. They'll be staying in WA about six weeks (to escape some of the NC heat/humidity) so we'll be spending lots more time together ... too long between visits...


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	From: myparu	Date: May 10th, 2008 05:24 pm (UTC)		(Link)
	Hello

Hi Ed, Happy Birthday...

	From: edbook	Date: May 10th, 2008 10:04 pm (UTC)		(Link)
	Re: Hello

Thank You, I'm enjoying my day...

Peace

	From: crm17	Date: May 10th, 2008 07:20 pm (UTC)		(Link)

Happy Birthday!

	From: edbook	Date: May 10th, 2008 10:04 pm (UTC)		(Link)

Thank You... 'enjoyin' it


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	From: si_anenome	Date: May 12th, 2008 03:36 am (UTC)		(Link)

Hi Ed... I have a question for you. I have some photos of the floral arrangements I made for a previous job. The guy who took the photos told me that he has the copyright on the pictures. If I use the photos in my portfolio, I have to include his info?

I guess I should have taken photos of the arrangements myself, eh?

I found myself thinking that they are my flowers, but the photos are his... and both of us work(ed) for the same place. Who do the pictures really belong to?

I am bummed I didn't take my own shots... I don't really want to post the pictures with his big logo. Gah.

I know there isn't a clear question there... but I think you'll get the issue. Thank you.

	From: edbook	Date: May 12th, 2008 06:42 am (UTC)		(Link)

'interesting question. I don't have an answer but do have an opinion:

chances are that if you were doing the arrangements as an employee the business owner owns the intellectual property for the particular arrangements and you were doing what is called "working for hire" Someone photographing the arrangements would need a property release signed by the business owner or someone representing them. Work for hire is not a good thing to do when producing a product because you are paid for labor only and are not the owner of the intellectual property (intellectual property in this case the act of arranging)

The photographer if making the images as part of employment, was working for hire too and isn't the copyright owner, his employer is.

If this is the case, the images are owned by the employer but there may be an agreement that the photographer be the copyright owner of any any images made during employment with the employer having license to use the images. I wouldn't think such an agreement would be common.

If the arrangements were your product and you were providing them as a contractor, then, you are the intellectual property owner of the arrangements (not the actual physical property) The photographer would need you to sign a property release for use of images produced unless for editorial use only.

a solution, and what is common use is for you to sign a property release for the photographer to be able to use the images and in exchange for the property release, he grant you license for their use for your portfolio. Usual identification for the photographer would be his name vertical in very small print beside the image (anyone wanting to know who the photographer was would be able to read the name but it shouldn't draw attention from the image)

If what I assumed about employment relationship wasn't right, then, what I said probably isn't correct... if I missed, I'll try again.

Peace

From: gay1a8275	Date: May 12th, 2008 05:32 am (UTC)		(Link)

Yeah...hahah