From: suzan_s	Date: November 2nd, 2005 01:57 pm (UTC)		(Link)

Is that cement? Did it just crumble away...how interesting....Great photo, love that you left the backpacker in.

	From: edbook	Date: November 2nd, 2005 02:51 pm (UTC)		(Link)

cement? no, it's a student leaving campus from the college there. crumbling? no, just walking.

Peace

	From: suzan_s	Date: November 2nd, 2005 07:42 pm (UTC)		(Link)

WOW, I am amazed at my comunication skills!! I meant... is the BRIDGE crumbling away...

	From: edbook	Date: November 3rd, 2005 12:26 am (UTC)		(Link)

my best guess is that they use salt on the roads in the winter and it (the salt) has eaten attacked compromised the cement structure. It looks bad though... ;)

Peace

	From: victory_rose	Date: November 3rd, 2005 08:26 pm (UTC)		(Link)

I'd never have dared leave half a person in the photo like that - thought that was a definite no-no. That's why we beginners like to look at pictures from pros like you - hopefully some of that mastery will rub off on us (well, not really, but apart from just loving to look at your photos, I also try to look at them with the aim of maybe learning something from it).

And thanks for the laugh re the cement and the crumbling. ;-)

	From: edbook	Date: November 3rd, 2005 10:31 pm (UTC)		(Link)

(in my opinion) part of learning to see is certainly looking at the art and craft of others. When looking at other's images, it's important to identify what images you like and dislike and try to understand your choices. Also, every picture tells a story... if what you see in an image is the same as what the maker was trying to say, then, the image is successful...

now, that being said... I'm going to put you on the spot and ask what you think I was saying to say in this image. Was the image successful? What elements and placement tell the story? what is there in the image that isn't needed? could it be cropped differently to better tell the story?

now, (well, after that other "now") is there a different way you would tell the story that you see in this image?

well (another "well") let's see it...

see what you got yourself into... you brought up what so many were afraid to mention... were you gullible, had no clue, or an intelligent mind wanting to know? ;)

Peace

	From: victory_rose	Date: November 3rd, 2005 11:51 pm (UTC)		(Link)

Oh crap, I always sucked at analyzing things - I've always been more of an intuitive thinking, first impression kind of girl. I think.

But sometimes intuition and first impressions don't get you there. My first reaction was that the half a guy thing was wrong. But I figured he was left in there on purpose so I looked at the photo again.

I realized that the picture would be rather uninteresting and sterile only showing the bridge and the running water. The guy brings movement to it, and that fits in with the function of a bridege, i.e. it's for travelling over or under, for things in motion. The guy needs to be faceless and unidentifiable as an individual because this isn't about him, per se, but the backpack fits in with the travelling idea.

Then again, the photo could have had nothing to do with what I said above. The title might indicate a correlation between the state of the bridge and the state of nature - both are kind of dying, the bridge by crumbling to pieces, and nature by shedding the leaves on the trees in preparation for winter. However, that doesn't explain the guy, unless his leaving the picture has something to do with the death thing.

I told you, I've always sucked at analyzing things. ;-)

Still, assuming this is probably nothing like what you had in mind, that's all right too, because even if you had something totally different in mind, you can't dictate what the spectator sees in the photo - you can certainly indicate it by giving clues, either subtly or blatantly, but in the end, the reaction is in the mind of the spectator who may or may not see the same thing as you did.

And even if I got everything wrong, the picture nevertheless made me think, even if it wasn't the "right" thinking. In that sense, it's a great success.

	From: edbook	Date: November 4th, 2005 12:06 am (UTC)		(Link)

you're right

and
you're right

and
you're right

after reading what you had to say, I forgot what it was that I was trying to say with the image. But, I like your ideas

Peace